‘The Flash’ Season 8 Finale Explained – What the Final Scene Means

The following contains spoilers from: The flashSeason 8 finale

The flash the Season 8 finale made Eobard Thawne more powerful than ever, as the negative reverse flash. In turn, the positive forces resurfaced to charge Barry in the same way as their own chosen avatar. Meanwhile, it was revealed that Iris had cheated Death, her consciousness finding refuge in the time stone that Damien Darhk gave Joe back during ‘Armageddon’.

Damien coached Iris to facilitate her own escape by rediscovering her lost connection to Barry, after which she dematerialized at Joe’s house. Iris then found Barry in the middle of a fight with Thawne and urged him to wrap things up as their feud was building to, you know, Armageddon. So, despite the crackling of the combined power of the other Forces, Barry literally chose to sit out the rest of the rumble, crisscrossing himself with applesauce on the curb and meditating, much to Thawne’s frustration. Thawne then cried “Lake power” to slaughter his enemy where he sat, only to be destroyed by his own excesses.

In the coda that followed, Iris reunited Tinya with her rescued mother… Cecile discovered that a form of telekinesis had been added to her power source… Caitlin’s ‘Frost’ room was malfunctioning, leading Mark to an unexpected discovery. ..and Barry and Iris enjoyed a quiet, romantic moment at home, where she explained how they found their spark again, and he thanked her for de-escalating his fight with Thawne. Then, in a final stab, as Barry and Iris recognized that the Negative Forces will one day find a new avatar, the camera surveyed a laboratory in the year 2049, where a (cobalt?) blue crystal could be seen…

TVLine spoke to Flash showrunner Eric Wallace about planting the seeds for the time disease arc, whether we’ve done so For real saw the last of Tom Cavanagh, why “WestAllen” was wringered and what that last image meant.

TVLINE I gave you a slow wave blow when Joe revealed the time stone was in his closet, and we got the flashback of Damien handing it to him. You really played the long game. What would you say was the very first seed for this time sickness storyline?
It really starts in season 7 – in episode 715, I believe? — where Iris appears to have the flu off-camera. candice [Patton] wasn’t available for episode 715 so we were like “I wonder why” Iris is not available? Hi! What if this is some diabolical master plan? And what if it’s really the bad guys, not the flu? What if they got her a time sickness and she won’t find out for six months? Oh my gosh, we’re going to have the most epic, engaging storyline ever, and we’re going to pay it off!” That’s where it started. And then there’s another deleted scene that sadly didn’t make the cut at the end of season 7 – right before the vow renewal, it’s a scene with Iris and Nora –

TVLINE TVLine actually posted that deleted scene, with the chain.
Yes, the chain scene! I can’t remember if we had the finished effects there, but at the top of the scene you can see Iris’s eyes glow green for the first time. Even though she got it off camera in episode 715, that’s true [the time sickness] would have been confirmed to the public. But instead we talked about it [Episodes] 801, 802,803….

TVLINE Did you happen to film these new scenes with Neal McDonough at the same time as ‘Armageddon’, knowing this recall was coming?
No, but we knew we wanted to bring him back. When we entered “Armageddon,” we knew, “Oh, this one That’s how we’re going to cure Iris’ time sickness. It will use the time stone in a way, so I hope Neal is available to come back!” At that point, I’d seen his daily papers work with the rest of Team Flash and it was just magic† I thought it would be a perfect bookend not only to the end of the season, as far as the Time Sickness storyline is concerned, but also the “Armageddon” storyline.

What hopefully everyone gets is that this was all about “Armageddon” – the start of the season and the end of the season. In the first five episodes we couldn’t show Armageddon because the hero prevents it. Then, as soon as we got close to [Episodes] 804, 805, we realized that if Flash solves the mystery and defeats the bad guy, we won’t get to see the coolest ever† “Well, I think we now know what our season finale is!” It was a beautiful symmetry.

Flash 8x20TVLINE That used to be quite a last hurray for Reverse-Flash in the final, but Tom [Cavanagh] has speculated over the years that when? The flash For real comes to an end, there must be a final showdown. Do you have any idea what that would look like?
No, not yet – because when we were writing the Season 8 finale, we thought that was the… series final. So we were like, “We’ve got to have the biggest, most epic battle ever between Grant [Gustin] and Tom! That’s how it’s supposed to end.” And after the script was done and we got ready to start the prep, that is when we got the news that we were getting a ninth season. So we were like, “Oh shit, we just had the ultimate battle. How are we ever going to top That† Then it was like, “Let’s just kill him now and worry about that later.” [Laughs] Because Reverse-Flash and the Negative Reverse-Flash, like Frost, are dead† I mean they are dead† Now…that being said…it’s a comic book show and I’m pretty sure in season 9 there’s a reason you might see Tom Cavanagh again. I’m not going to get into it, but that’s a pretty safe bet.

TVLINE About tuning with . spoken Legends of tomorrow on sharing Thawne from Matt Letscher.
The Legends people had called me and said, “We have the idea to use Reverse-Flash, but we don’t want to mess with what you’re up to because it’s pretty radical.” [Legends‘ Jan. 22 episode established that the time wraiths had assigned Letcher’s Thawne to safeguard a fixed point in the year 1914.] And then I heard their pitch and said “That fits in” perfect with the end of the Armageddon storyline.”

Flash WestAllen 8x20TVLINE Your lead actress, Candice Patton, has been a little shielded from the rest of the cast and canvas for the past few years, starting with Season 6’s Mirrorverse arc and followed by her Coast City storyline this season and then MIA for the past four years. . to soften. is there a Why beyond that? And if you get out of this finale, can you promise Season 9 will be different on that front?
Okay, okay, I hear the note below the note. Yes, I can say unequivocally that in season 9 you will see a lot, a lot more of Barry and Iris together. Not just together in the same room, but together in all ways. It’s something that’s part of the new approach for the new season. Every season is different and Season 9 is going to be very, very fun and very exciting.

The rode we can do that is because of what [WestAllen] have been through the past season and a half, being apart and growing individually. As we see in this finale, Iris was the last person not to “level up” yet, and we actually see it happening in the episode. Now that she’s done hair journey of leveling, she and Barry can both face what’s to come in Season 9 together, as a couple. So you’ll see them together a lot more, unlike what you sometimes saw in Season 8.

TVLINE So Iris’s perceived isolation was a combination of storytelling with maybe a little bit of COVID protocols thrown in…?
Oh, without a doubt. COVID is rampant in the world as we know it, wreaking havoc in the way everyone makes their TV shows, not just ours. And if you only add that to the stories themselves, a certain storytelling style is created. And now that we’ve completed that journey, we can move on to something new.


TVLINE How will the outcome of Caitlin’s experiment match Danielle Panabaker’s promise that Frost is truly and sincerely dead?
Danielle told the truth and I keep my promise to her. frost is dead† But Danielle Panabaker is still a regular The flash, and we heard her voice speak to Mark…. That begs the question: who’s in there? Is it Caitlin, or is it something else? That’s something we’ll see right at the start of Season 9 – and I think everyone will be as surprised as Mark was.

Flash 8x20TVLINE As for the very last image from the finale, a glowing blue crystal in a lab set in the year 2049. Need comic book fans to know what that was?
The hardcore comic fans know what’s coming; those who don’t, I’m not ruining it here, so it’s going to be a big surprise for them. But yeah, we’re taking straight from the comic books here, and boy it’s gonna be fun.

TVLINE When we spoke to each other last month, you didn’t know the answer to this: will Season 9 be the last season?
I still do not know. I don’t know. l heap it is not. I have plenty of plans. The first three seasons [I was showrunner], 6, 7 and 8, is really one big omnibus. And that whole story is now done. I’m now formulating a new shorter two-season plan for seasons 9 and 10, so I really hope I can tell that story because I know where I’m driving.

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